any help on parameter set for huanyang VFD for 0-10 control for masso

pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
hello anyone,

i have huanyang VFD for my cnc router for masso, i just wire according for the wiring diagram of masso, i can controlled the forward and reverse but the rpm is not, i know that i need to program the parameter to make it work for 0-10v . i read the manual and set it on parameter of vfd but no luck.

anyone here have experience on this huanyang VFD.



thanks
 

masso-support

MASSO Support
Staff member
Hi Guys,

The first thing to do is to narrow down where the problem is, either the Masso or the VFD. The simplest way of doing this to put a volt meter between VI & ACM of the VFD and see if the voltage changes when you give speed commands in MDI eg S0 = 0volts, S12000 = 5volts, S24000 = 10 volts (I am assuming a 24000rpm spindle)



A couple of things to check on the HuanYang VFD.
  • There is a link beside the screw terninals that change the VFD from control by the POT on the front panel to voltage control. It needs to be in the VI position see the attached photo.
  • PD002 set to 1 (Speed set by analogue signal)
  • PD070 set to 0 (0-10V Analogue control signal)

There are other settings but the link and those 2 would be the ones I would check first.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Peter
 

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pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
Quote from MASSO Support on January 8, 2019, 7:16 pm

Hi Guys,

The first thing to do is to narrow down where the problem is, either the Masso or the VFD. The simplest way of doing this to put a volt meter between VI & ACM of the VFD and see if the voltage changes when you give speed commands in MDI eg S0 = 0volts, S12000 = 5volts, S24000 = 10 volts (I am assuming a 24000rpm spindle)



A couple of things to check on the HuanYang VFD.
  • There is a link beside the screw terninals that change the VFD from control by the POT on the front panel to voltage control. It needs to be in the VI position see the attached photo.
  • PD002 set to 1 (Speed set by analogue signal)
  • PD070 set to 0 (0-10V Analogue control signal)

There are other settings but the link and those 2 would be the ones I would check first.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Peter

Thanks Peter maybe that is the I missing link to my problem (the one in your picture) because I am using first a AA battery to test this before but no luck. I will try this tomorrow.

Thanks again I will post again the result and make I short video clip.

Thanks again guys.
 

pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
hi guys,

my VFD is now working thank you Peter of Masso Support.

i would like to share the parameters that i used on my Huanyang VDF 2.2kw ,400hz (24,000 max rpm @400hz)

PD 001- 1

PD 002- 1

PD 003- 400

PD 004- 400

PD 005- 400

PD 007- 20

PD 008- 220

PD 009- 15

PD 0010- 8

PD 0011- 120

PD 0014- 12

PD 0015- 12

PD 044- 2

PD 045- 3

PD 070 - 0 (0-10 analog input)

PD 072- 400

PD 073- 100

PD 141- 220

PD 142- 7.5 (this is were you see on your spindle motor Max Amps, mine is max 8.5 but i donnt want to used the maximum amps.)

i hope this will help the huanyang VFD user.
 

masso-support

MASSO Support
Staff member
Thanks Pinoy CNC

That's great news, glad you got it working.

Brilliant idea using a battery to test voltage control. I wouldn't have thought of it.

Thanks for the settings they will be a big help for others in the future as setting up a VFD can be a pain for those who have never done it before. Can I just ask are you sure about PD007. If I read the manual right it should be 0.5 according to the V/F Graph? You could have a different manual or I could be reading mine wrong. I have put a link below to my VFD settings which are slightly different to yours, mostly because I disabled reverse on mine but otherwise they are very similar.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/spo5knydtjuusvh/VFD Parameters.doc?dl=0

I originally used a router on my machine and hated the spindle for about a week until I got used to it. Now I wouldn't be without it, one of the better upgrades I did to the machine.

Is your spindle Air or Water cooled?

Happy cutting

Cheers

Peter
 

x-cnc

X - CNC
Quote from Pinoy CNC on January 18, 2019, 3:08 am

i would like to share the parameters that i used on my Huanyang VDF 2.2kw ,400hz (24,000 max rpm @400hz)

I'm assuming you are using the 220 volt version, correct?

What setting(s), if any, would be changed for the 110 volt version? (Huanyang 110V 3.0 kw 400hz).
 

dsherburn

dsherburn
Peters picture of the jumper helped. I completely missed it; working well now. I too have the 110vac version so I changed PD008 to 110, as well as PD141. The minimum frequency is important (PD011) as you want the spindle spinning if it's set to run so the fan can remove some of the heat.
 

kencnc411

kencnc411
Quote from MASSO Support on January 8, 2019, 7:16 pm

Hi Guys,

The first thing to do is to narrow down where the problem is, either the Masso or the VFD. The simplest way of doing this to put a volt meter between VI & ACM of the VFD and see if the voltage changes when you give speed commands in MDI eg S0 = 0volts, S12000 = 5volts, S24000 = 10 volts (I am assuming a 24000rpm spindle)



A couple of things to check on the HuanYang VFD.
  • There is a link beside the screw terninals that change the VFD from control by the POT on the front panel to voltage control. It needs to be in the VI position see the attached photo.
  • PD002 set to 1 (Speed set by analogue signal)
  • PD070 set to 0 (0-10V Analogue control signal)

There are other settings but the link and those 2 would be the ones I would check first.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Peter


Quote from MASSO Support on January 8, 2019, 7:16 pm

Hi Guys,

The first thing to do is to narrow down where the problem is, either the Masso or the VFD. The simplest way of doing this to put a volt meter between VI & ACM of the VFD and see if the voltage changes when you give speed commands in MDI eg S0 = 0volts, S12000 = 5volts, S24000 = 10 volts (I am assuming a 24000rpm spindle)



A couple of things to check on the HuanYang VFD.
  • There is a link beside the screw terninals that change the VFD from control by the POT on the front panel to voltage control. It needs to be in the VI position see the attached photo.
  • PD002 set to 1 (Speed set by analogue signal)
  • PD070 set to 0 (0-10V Analogue control signal)

There are other settings but the link and those 2 would be the ones I would check first.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Peter

In the the U.S. should the settings be?
PD 003 = 60.00
PD 004 = 60.00
PD 005 = 60.00
PD 072 = 60.00
 

breezy

Arie
Staff member
@kencnc411

Without looking at the manual as to what those PD's are but checking back on post #5 I would say that those PD's are the max frequency of the spindle (motor). Therefore it doesn't matter what country you are in they stay at 4ooHz if you have a 24000 rpm spindle.

Regards,

Arie.
 

cncnutz

CNCnutz
Staff member
@kencnc411

Arie is correct on this. If you are configuring a spindle check what is written on it as the required frequency. Setting a 400hz spindle to 60 hz will turn it into an induction furnace and it will attempt to melt down the spindles armature very quickly. I have put a video below of setting up the VFD and if you go to my website, you can download my configuration file and change it to suit your spindle. Mine is for a 220 volt 400hz spindle run on 230V 50 hz mains so make sure you understand the settings and heed the suggestion to fuse the VFD with a low value fuse just in case you screw it up. My values will probably not be right for yours but it is a starting point and should be used as an aid to understanding what is needed.

https://www.cncnutz.com/2017/04/installing-spindle-part-2-episode-145.html




Cheers

Peter
 

kencnc411

kencnc411
Peter,

Thank you. I followed the method in your video. The VFD works fine when connected to the spindle remote hand control. When connected to Masso it won t take commands. My settings in masso match yours. I m running a to 2.2K spindle and VFD rated for 110 V, 8.3 amps, 2400
 

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cncnutz

CNCnutz
Staff member
Nice one @kencnc411

Have you watched and followed the install video on the Masso VFD page?

You are basically there, having got it working with the hand control, so you have probably just missed something small. See how you go.


Cheers

Peter
 

breezy

Arie
Staff member
Quote from kencnc411 on November 16, 2019, 4:58 pm

I followed the method in your video. The VFD works fine when connected to the spindle remote hand control. When connected to Masso it won t take commands. My settings in masso match yours. I m running a to 2.2K spindle and VFD rated for 110 V, 8.3 amps, 2400

Have you set the VFD to external control? Without diving into the manual I can't tell you which parameter to change.

Regards,

Arie.
 

breezy

Arie
Staff member
Quote from kencnc411 on November 17, 2019, 11:14 pm

Quote from CNCnutz on November 17, 2019, 3:10 am

Out of curiosity, what did you find was the problem?

Rev+ and Fwd+ were wired to pins 4 and 5.

That would tend to leave a big hole in the circuit!!!!!!

But so easy to do. Glad it was a easy fix.

I missed that in photos. Assumed that you had wired it correctly and double checked it.

Regards,

Arie.
 
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