automatic switch to manual tool changer

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diegocolonnello

diegocolonnello
I have been wondering if it is possible for Masso to accept a manual tool change when a tool needed is not on the list of tools...



for example, if i have an 8 tool magazine and my code calls for tool 9, it automatically goes to the Manual tool change position for it to be inserted by an operator....



Only an idea...
 
masso-support

masso-support

MASSO Support
Staff member
right now you can only use the tools as per the tools list or manually load all the tools. We can look into adding this logic as this should not be a lot of work, let's see if others have the same requirements and then we can put this on priority.
 
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diegocolonnello

diegocolonnello
one application could be the use of a probe, i have a 9 tool magazine and would not like to sacrifice one spot for a probe, with this new logic, as soon as you request for a probe, it could accept it manually....





By the way, the new firmware removed the green indicator at the bottom of the screen for the touch plate....
 
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eldonb46

eldonb46
We have implemented AutoTool Changer, with 16 tools, but often another "special tool" is needed for a particular job. Current it requires reconfiguration of our tool rack for this one job.

It would be very useful to be able to request for a tool number that is not in the rack, then to "auto switch to manual" mode for all tools that are not in the tool list.

I would suggest using the "Manual Tool Change Position" accept a new tool after parking the current assigned rack tool. Then when a standard tool is requested, move to back to "Manual Tool Change Position" for release, and then continue as normal for Auto Tool Change.

We have several user of our CNC system that time-share the resource with different machine (tooling) use requirements. And, this approach will help with most of our "one-off" projects.

Thanks for your efforts.

Eldon
 
aussiemike

aussiemike

aussiemike
I saw a comment in another CNC forum that they could assign multiple tool numbers to each ATC position. That way, the operator swaps out the required tools in the holder before starting the job. So in Diego s situation, the probe could be assigned to position 18. Once the probing is finished and say, tool 1 is selected, he could swap out 18 for 9 while the machine is working with tool 1.

It sounds like a sweet solution to me. Is this something that G3 could do?

Mike
 
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greevous

Greevous
That would be helpful, an idea is if it asks for a tool number greater than 31 then the software just does a manual tool operation rather than just skipping the tool change and possibly damaging things as is possible now with tool requests over 31.
 
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cmd1991

cmd1991
I would definitely appreciate this feature as well!

At minimum it would be really nice to be able to manually specify which tool number is currently loaded so if you manually change change the tool, you can change it on the screen so that it won't initiate an automatic tool change.
 
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Shellby429

Member
masso-support said:
right now you can only use the tools as per the tools list or manually load all the tools. We can look into adding this logic as this should not be a lot of work, let's see if others have the same requirements and then we can put this on priority.
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Masso support. Was this ever rectified?
 
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tmtoronto

TMToronto
I would also appreciate having this functionality. I think it adds a great deal of flexibility, and would be an asset for those like myself who are adding Masso to our hobby/DIY CNC builds/mods.
 
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Michael-au

Member
Being able to change the tool number would be very handy, I use tool number one to set my Z zero, all other tools in the library are measured from tool one
Would be good to just click on the tool number and type in 1 to change to that tool, especially on first startup when it starts with a different tool number from the last job rather go through a tool change procedure
 
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Shellby429

Member
@masso-support, there was never a response to this. Given the interest and requests on this forum alone, I think this feature would be useful for so many users. This is certainly a constraint I am struggling with at the moment and don’t know how to move forward.

Could you please advise?
 
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Shellby429

Member
cncnutz said:
@Shellby429
The manual tool change feature request has been added to the tool change development list.

@Michael-au
All tools are measured relative to one another. It doesn't matter what tool you use to set your Zero point, the result will be the same.

Cheers Peter
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Thanks for your response Peter.

Any idea on a timeframe for this to become available? The original request was some time ago now and the support response was that the solution is quite simple.

Regards
Mark
 
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Michael-au

Member
cncnutz said:
@Shellby429
The manual tool change feature request has been added to the tool change development list.

@Michael-au
All tools are measured relative to one another. It doesn't matter what tool you use to set your Zero point, the result will be the same.

Cheers Peter
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cncnutz said:
What I ment was it would be nice to be able to click on the tool number that is loaded on the screen and change it to the tool that is used to set the z zero so then there is no need to go through a tool change procedure at startup, after the machine is homed just click on the tool number and change it, then Masso pulls the info for that tool from the tool table, like in mach3
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splinelabs

New member
+ One on this Feature Request, I've asked about this in one of my support tickets, but it looks like its still not there.
 
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