BobCAD-CAM Post Processors for MASSO

airnut

Airnut
Masso,

As you can see there is no information in the last post. I just purchased a Masso for one of my mills and have version 29 of Bobcad in house though I have never used it. I plan to do so once I get the mill running. Perhaps when I get it all working then I may upgrade to the latest version of Bobcad.

So the question is, Does any one have a post processer for Bobcad mill software they could share. I saw a video about a lathe version but so far nothing on the MIll PP. Side note, I called Bobcad and they told me if I bought the new version they would fix me up with a PP. Nice huh, Makes me want to consider fusion 360 or something else.

Steve
 

masso-support

MASSO Support
Staff member
That is disappointing Steve because at the end of last year I spent time compiling information required to create a Mill post processor for BobCad and answered the questions they sent regarding it.

I assumed that they were writing a post processor to support their range of software but it seems they have decided to support only the current version.

Cheers Peter
 

airnut

Airnut
Hello Peter,

Thanks for getting back, Maybe it was just their new salesman trying to hustle me for another dig. You would think that people in the service business would make servicing and taking care of their existing customers a very high priority. Maybe they will figure out that If we are happy we may be back for more. Their is a lot of options out there when it comes to things like this.

So did you ever get a finished copy of the post processor you could share?

Regards,

Steve
 

breezy

Arie
Staff member
Steve,
Side note, I called Bobcad and they told me if I bought the new version they would fix me up with a PP.

You would think that people in the service business would make servicing and taking care of their existing customers a very high priority.

Went looking for Bobcad PP and from their site found this
Effective September 1, 2019, BobCAD-CAM Inc will support current software and 2 versions back.

Currently Supported Versions:
BobCAD-CAM Software Versions
BobCAD-CAM V30 / BobCAD-CAM V31 / BobCAD-CAM V32

Standard Post Processors can be modified and created by support for currently supported versions, at the request of a customer with a current support subscription.

So unfortunately for you, they won't be creating a MASSO PP for version 29.

Anyway do you have any copies of a PP, if so upload a copy so that I can compare it to Mach4_3x_Mill.BCPst (version 31) copy I download from CNCZone. If there isn't to much difference between them I can "adjust" a current MASSO version to be backwards compatible to version 29.

Peter,

Can you chase up Bobcad for "current" version MASSO mill PP to be added to the download list on their site.

Regards,

Arie.
 

airnut

Airnut
Arie,

I am working on getting a file for you. How would you like to receive it, in this forum or email ?

Thanks for all you do.

Steve
 

airnut

Airnut
Arie,

Here is the file I have on the drive. looks like it was the same or mostly so as even earlier versions.

(EDITED Out)

I tried to send a file but it was rejected. So I sent it this way. If this does not work for you let me know how you want me to send it.

Regards,

Steve
 

breezy

Arie
Staff member
Steve,
I tried to send a file but it was rejected. So I sent it this way. If this does not work for you let me know how you want me to send it.

Allowed file types are listed in the Upload Files section in fine print, if you need to upload a file that is not in the list then you need to ZIP it up so it can be uploaded.

I have taken a copy of the file and compared it to the file I got from CNCZone, there are changes in the structure of the file but essentially they are the same. We'll wait and see how Peter goes with getting a MASSO specific PP and then we can test and fix any problems.

You can edit out the file now. Thanks.

Regards,

Arie.
 

airnut

Airnut
Arie,

Done, Internet was down due to lightning last night so it took a while.

Thanks again. I still am not up and running as of yet but making great progress on the build. I just would like to get ahead of the curve on the post processer so I can make it work when its ready. I appreciate you going through this.

Regards to you and Pete for all your efforts.

Steve
 

masso-support

MASSO Support
Staff member
Hi Steve,

I have been unable to get the PP myself but am told that they are available and users can log into BobCad and download them. You will need your support account login to access it.
I updated the Masso website with the link to download the latest version of Mill and Plasma Post Processors and where to find them. They currently don't have a Lathe Post but plan to create one.
Sorry I forgot to get back to you on this.

Cheers Peter
 

airnut

Airnut
Peter,

Thank you once again. Despite what they told me this link took me to a place where I could request a post for the version 29. They asked for a program and list of the G and M codes supported. I told them just the standard Masso list will work. Don't know any more to tell them than that. As I remember from above you gave them all that information months ago. Remains to be seen if they will want to charge for this service. We will see.

Side note, now tuning the drives on my machine, its getting exciting , but, really struggling. Using servoconfig3. From cncdrives Did manage to get all the lights blinking green and to talk to one of the drives today, results not so good yet. Do you have advice or a video or know of one of how to do that?

Regards,

Steve
 

masso-support

MASSO Support
Staff member
Glad your making progress Steve in both of your quests.
Servos are a mystery to me I'm afraid so I can't help you with this one but I'm sure someone out there will know how to set it up.
Cheers Peter
 

airnut

Airnut
Peter,

Update,

After my request for a version 29 I got a call from them this morning. He was very helpful and suggested I go and log into the site and see if I could download a Masso version. Using my account number I was able to log in and I was able to download a version of Bob Cad for Masso Mill version 30-32 from there web site.

I have not compared the standard version BC3x in 29 I sent over to Breezy to the new versions yet. But at least we now have a place to start working on the Masso G3 post for version 29 of Bobcad. I don't know how involved this will be, but at least it gives me some hope that I have all the pieces for the puzzle going forward.

Thanks and Regards,

Steve
 

cncnutz

CNCnutz
Staff member
Quote from SegoMan DeSigns on July 1, 2020, 11:43 am

@masso-support

Peter,

One of your CNC Nut vids on how to Edit Post Processors for both BobCad and Sheetcam would be very helpful.

Thanks,

Steve

I'm sorry to say Steve that i do not have the skills required to make major changes to either of those programs.
My knowledge of scripting is very limited and I know enough to work it out if I stare at it long enough but it can take me hours to do even the simplest thing.
I have tried BobCad in the past but there is no way of testing it without the actual software. I know I tried in the past. The trial version only outputs the header and footer of the Gcode file which are of no use when it comes to testing a post processor.

I have also tried Sheetcam with better success but it was hard going.

I think making a video on the subject is a bit out of my league I'm afraid.

Cheers Peter
 

airnut

Airnut
Peter,

As memory serves I believe Breezy stuck his hand up and offered to compare and possibly build a file up that will work as soon as we got what we needed from Bobcad that you were working on.

I had sent him the standard generic 3 axis mill program from Version 29. he got the copy and asked me to delete it from the Forum, now I have a download of the version from 30-32 for the Masso to compare to. No real hurry on my part as I'm still not running and now waiting for an order of encoders. but, I am glad we are getting closer to being able to have a post processer in hand once I can get the servos talking to the Masso. Have a lot of backlog building up for this machine and just wanted to get a start on building something in Bobcad before hand while waiting for parts.

Regards,

Steve (Airnut)
 

airnut

Airnut
I have some more information on this posting problem.. According to Bobcad the post processer was completely up graded and included with version 29 . There is a complete post processer modification video available on Utube which explains the how to process. The new version 33 apparently also has an upgraded post processer. So the processer and editing can be done to match with examples found in 29-32 virsions fairly easily. Also I think the earlier versions from 29 back to 24 use the older versions as the file shows 24 as being the base with revisions up to 29 noted in the file. This is on the generic BC 3X mill.pst file.

I have found the generic file to be mostly compatible with my machine with only a exit strategy needing modification so far. It really does seem to be a very easy modification to make and is well documented.

Regards,

Steve
 
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