Clearpath servos vs Steppers with Masso

canmorebrewguy

canmorebrewguy
Hello All,

I was just doing more research and came across Clearpath servos, has any one used them with Masso and are there better advantages over steppers? The noise is not really a concern as my spindle will be screaming any way. The thing that interests me is the not loosing a step as I have an old Plasma CNC that looses step and is a big pain to get it back into step. Will these servos eliminate that?

Sorry for all the questions,

Todd
 

breezy

Moderator
The noise is not really a concern as my spindle will be screaming any way

When people refer to noise in relation to CNC they are more likely referring to RF electrical noise being introduced into signal paths, causing all sorts of problems. Some signal voltages swing from 0.5 to 5 volts and the introduced voltage could "swamp" the signal voltage, specially on plasma machines. Proper wiring will reduce RF noise. ie Shielded cables, routing power cables away from signal cables.
Will these servos eliminate that?

Because servos have encoders to send position data back to the driver they are less likely to miss/loose steps. Check out the Documentation for the type of motors/drivers that can be/have been connected to the MASSO. Basically if the driver accepts Step & Direction signals then it can be used with the MASSO.

Regards,

Arie.
 

vetteman

Vetteman
The great advantage of using the Masso is quality. If you couple the Masso with Clearpath servos, you ll have a very reliable, very accurate system. (Full disclosure) I don t have a Masso controller, but I will purchase one soon to replace my controller that was recently lost in a lightning strike.

Yes, the Clearpath servos provide great advantage over steppers. First, you don t need stepper drivers like Gecko. And you don t need signal conditioning like smoothstepper. With the Clearpath the Gecko and smoothstepper go to the trash. There are fewer hardware components to fail. The servos also have a lower operating temperature. This is a great advantage for unconditioned shop space.

The Clearpath servos operate in step direction mode. You ll have to calibrate each servo using the Clearpath calibration software. But the software tool is documented well and is very easy to use. Then you ll have to perform axis calibration for the initial setup just the same as the steppers.

Each Clearpath servo receives DC voltage and a digital step direction signal. The onboard controller converts the DC voltage to AC for a motor power source. And, the onboard controller processes the step and direction signal to motion. Since the onboard controller has a built in encoder, the processor has the ability to always know its position. So you can set these servos up so they always know where home is.

Finally I d like to say they work very well with plasma cutters. Since all the control, drive and processing functions are handled onboard at the servo; the servos are more immune from electronic noise than most systems.

I m not associated with Tecknic. But I have been using their servos for five years and they have never failed. I have their least expensive nema 23 s on my large router. I have their nema 34 s on my Bridgeport knee mill conversion. And I ve recently replaced my Bridgeport 3phase spindle motor with a Clearpath Integral hp servo motor.

I can t say they are perfect for all applications. There are too many variables to make that kind of statement. Some may say, But look at the initial cost to get into the Clearpath . After I moved to a Masso type quality controller and the Clearpath servos, all my control problems vanished. Two years of troubleshooting nightmare controls, all gone

BillT
 

vetteman

Vetteman
Todd,

I looked at DMM when I converted my Bridgeport to CNC. They have a kit for knee mill conversion that would have been a great choice for the Bridgeport. But I chose Clearpath over DMM strictly because I was already familiar with Clearpath.

The plasma table should not require a lot of torque. The motors are not pushing a cutting tool against a piece of stock. The Clearpath may be easier to setup and wire with fewer components. But the DMM may be less expensive overall.

Regardless, I don t believe you can go wrong either way.

Best of luck for a great upgrade!!

BillT
 
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