Converting Masso Plasma Controller?

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adstaggs

adstaggs
It has been over a year but I am back to converting plasma to mill, do I have to clear the old plasma software before installing the new os for the mill?
 
breezy

breezy

Moderator
No. When you boot up the MASSO with the USB containing the new software version, it will go into the software install routine and overwrite the old software.

Check out Upgrading / Unlocking the Controller

Also what is the version number of the software that you have? I'm not sure because we are running alpha testing software but I think the current version is around 3.41.

Regards,

Arie.
 
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adstaggs

adstaggs
I had the usb drive in the wrong port, software has been updated. thanks

But now when I home, it homes the z axis but then immediately triggers a Red Homing Alarm and will not home the X and Y.

The auto Zero is not enabled
 
evermech

evermech

evermech
@adstaggs

i think I would try a slower homing speed first. Also I would turn the ball screws on X and y axis so they are a couple inches away from home so that you can see if they are going the proper direction etc.

Guy
 
masso-support

masso-support

MASSO Support
Staff member
please also make sure that when homing the sensors/switches do not overshoot while the axis comes to a stop, it must remain triggered by the time the motor comes to a complete stop.
 
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adstaggs

adstaggs
Installed the newest v3.42 and it working now.

I have a spindle HK-D54 48VDC will this work with the masso and how is it wired?
 
breezy

breezy

Moderator
@adstaggs

Do you have a controller / driver for this spindle? If so what is it?

Provide us with that information and we can help you work out the wiring requirements.

Regards,

Arie.
 
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adstaggs

adstaggs
I have not yet but would this one work?

Sydien DC10-55V 60A Stepless DC Motor Speed Controller with Digital Display,Ajustable Potentiometer, Forward-Brake-Reverse Switch​

 
cncnutz

cncnutz

CNCnutz
Staff member
Hi adstaggs

Have you watched this video on connecting a VFD onto Masso?

While you aren't using a VFD it sounds from the description you have supplied that it might work but you will need to work through the manual and figure it out for sure. The video should help you decide.


Cheers

Peter
 
breezy

breezy

Moderator
Quote from adstaggs on September 4, 2019, 12:51 am

I have not yet but would this one work?
Sydien DC10-55V 60A Stepless DC Motor Speed Controller with Digital Display,Ajustable Potentiometer, Forward-Brake-Reverse Switch
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It could work but it would require modifying. The Forward-Brake-Reverse Switch can be replaced with MASSO's CW & CCW opto outputs. The potentiometer would be a problem, we would need to know the voltage being applied across the potentiometer so the MASSO's speed control signal could be adjusted via a resistor divider to provide the correct signal to the controller. If the voltage across the potentiometer is greater than 10v then you would not be able to get the full speed range.

Can you provide a link to the manual for the controller you are looking at?

You could look for a PWM driver and then use MASSO's PWM outputs to control your spindle. MASSO Spindle Connector

Regards,

Arie.
 
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adstaggs

adstaggs
If I wanted could I just use a relay card connected to the masso just to turn the spindle off and on then use a potentiometer to control it manually?
 
breezy

breezy

Moderator
@adstaggs

Before we go any further with setting up your spindle, what are you intending to do with the mill?

You started out saying that you are converting a plasma to a mill.
  • What size is the bed/table of the converted plasma?
  • What are the feed rates you hope to cut at?
  • What thickness of sheet wood are you going to cut?
  • Are you going to do 3D carving / engraving?

The reason for these questions is that the spindle you have is about 400W, which is only good for light weight work. If you want to cut MDF or ply sheets you should be looking at a 1.5 - 2.2kW spindle controlled by a VFD.

In regards to using the Sydien DC10-55V 60A Stepless DC Motor Speed Controller, you could just replace the Forward-Brake-Reverse Switch with the MASSO CW & CCW opto isolated outputs and control the speed with the built in potentiometer.

Regards,

Arie.
 
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adstaggs

adstaggs
I want to do 3D carving/engraving but also want to cut out of 1/2 to 3/4 ply so I guess I need look into getting a 1.5 - 2.2kW spindle controlled by a VFD.

thanks that helps.
 
breezy

breezy

Moderator
Quote from adstaggs on September 4, 2019, 12:43 pm

I guess I need look into getting a 1.5 - 2.2kW spindle controlled by a VFD.
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Consider getting a water cooled spindle against air cooled.
  • Quieter
  • Can run at lower speeds without overheating.

Don't know where you are located but if you are in Australia try CNC Spindle & Invertek VFD Package from 3DTek. The service & support from Ben is excellent.

Regards,

Arie.
 
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