Delta VFD-S

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pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
Hi,

I am following your delta vfd c series manual on how to wire to masso. I am totaly lost on this because My Delta vfd-s series is defferent from c200 series.

Please see attached picture this is the wiring setup before on my cnc milling using usbcnc controller.

Please guide me to how to connect this on masso.
 
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pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
Sorry but i am lost.

1.Pin 7 on masso goes to my M0

2.Pin 5 on masso goes to my M1

3. Pin 6 & 4 goes were on my vfd?

4. Pin 1 goes on my AVI

5. Gnd on masso goes were on my vfd?

6. 0-10 on my vfd selected. Ok or no?

7.on my vfd what to select NPN OR PNP
 
masso-support

masso-support

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  • Connect Pin 6 & 4 to -ve of GND on the VFD.
  • MASSO GND and VFD GND will be connected together.
  • 0-10v on VFD is ok.
  • PNP setup please.
 
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pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
Thanks

Also on f1

1.i will select vfd

2.Spindle RPM at 100% duty cycle i will put 24,000 because my vfd max rpm is 24,000

3.PWM frequency (hz) : what i should put?

Encoder (PPR) : what should i put?



Thanks
 
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pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
Quote from MASSO - Support on March 10, 2018, 8:17 am

  • Connect Pin 6 & 4 to -ve of GND on the VFD.
  • MASSO GND and VFD GND will be connected together.
  • 0-10v on VFD is ok.
  • PNP setup please.
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Done wiring but no motor movement
 
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pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
Also here is the wiring of vfd to masso

I dont know if the 17v on vdf need to short on gnd as on your manual but i not sure about it.

Thanks and need a help as soon as possible
 
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masso-support

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One of the issues that happens when connecting VFD is that the issue can be on the VFD parameters or wiring or some settings in MASSO, trying to do everything together will just cause more confusion.
  1. First rather than wiring the VFD to MASSO, remove all VFD signals from MASSO.
  2. Connect the FWD and REV signals manually together through a switch and give RPM voltage using AA battery. This way you know at least your signals are ok.
  3. If the VFD works then wire the same setup to MASSO else your VFD parameters are not correct.
  4. Only try to run the VFD with MASSO once you can manually run the VFD from external signals.
 
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pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
1. Okay i will remove all the connection and start from scratch.

2. Were i connect the + side of the AA battery and - side?

3. If all are okay i will connect all the wire as before And try.
 
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pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
Quote from MASSO - Support on March 12, 2018, 7:46 pm

One of the issues that happens when connecting VFD is that the issue can be on the VFD parameters or wiring or some settings in MASSO, trying to do everything together will just cause more confusion.
  1. First rather than wiring the VFD to MASSO, remove all VFD signals from MASSO.
  2. Connect the FWD and REV signals manually together through a switch and give RPM voltage using AA battery. This way you know at least your signals are ok.
  3. If the VFD works then wire the same setup to MASSO else your VFD parameters are not correct.
  4. Only try to run the VFD with MASSO once you can manually run the VFD from external signals.
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Hi,



Just try the AA batery if the VFD will run the motor.

Answer: no movement at all

But i try short the 17v to M0 and used MDI to try M3 S6000 the result is the VFD turn off the LED of stop and turn on the run LED and the motor turn.

But when i try M5 to stop the motor the run LED still on and the stop LED on, the hz of VFD turn to 0.

But in masso triger the error hard limit.



There is 14v on 17v and grd. I will upload later the video because its to large to post it here
 
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pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
Its looks like the 14v that comes from 17v on vfd goes to masso if the masso do m5 or stop the signal going to m0.



Thanks
 
masso-support

masso-support

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Again lets please not connect the VFD to MASSO at this stage, it just wont help.
  1. Connect the AA battery to VFD
  2. Then connect M0 to ground
  3. At this stage the VFD should start and the motor should start turning CW.
  4. Next remove M0 from ground and connect M1 to ground and motor will start turning CCW.
 
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pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
Quote from MASSO - Support on March 15, 2018, 3:43 am

Again lets please not connect the VFD to MASSO at this stage, it just wont help.
  1. Connect the AA battery to VFD
  2. Then connect M0 to ground
  3. At this stage the VFD should start and the motor should start turning CW.
  4. Next remove M0 from ground and connect M1 to ground and motor will start turning CCW.
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hi,

just try the following

PNP Setup

1.connect +1.5V to +AVI and GND to AVI GND

2. Short GND to M0 and GND to M1

Answer: No Movement at all

PNP Setup

1.connect +1.5V to +AVI and GND to AVI GND

2. Short 17v to M0 Result: there is motor movements FWR direction

3. short 17v to M1 Result: there is motor movements Rev. direction

NPN Setup

1.connect +1.5V to +AVI and GND to AVI GND

2. Short GND to M0 Result: there is motor movements FWR direction

3. short GND to M1 Result: there is motor movements Rev. direction



this is the result of the bench test of vfd
 
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masso-support

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  1. Great, so now lets use the NPN Setup
  2. Leave the 1.5v connected from the power supply to the VFD
  3. Connect VFD GND to Pin 4 and 6 of MASSO Spindle connector
  4. Connect VFD M0 to pin 5 of MASSO Spindle connector
  5. Connect VFD M1 to pin 7 of MASSO Spindle connector
  6. Next power on MASSO and make sure there are no alarms flashing on the screen
  7. Now in MDI give M3 command
  8. Next give M4 command

Let me know if this gets the VFD running, and if you change the 1.5v then the spindle RPM will change too.
 
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pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
Quote from MASSO - Support on March 16, 2018, 8:24 am

  1. Great, so now lets use the NPN Setup
  2. Leave the 1.5v connected from the power supply to the VFD
  3. Connect VFD GND to Pin 4 and 6 of MASSO Spindle connector
  4. Connect VFD M0 to pin 5 of MASSO Spindle connector
  5. Connect VFD M1 to pin 7 of MASSO Spindle connector
  6. Next power on MASSO and make sure there are no alarms flashing on the screen
  7. Now in MDI give M3 command
  8. Next give M4 command

Let me know if this gets the VFD running, and if you change the 1.5v then the spindle RPM will change too.
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Hi,

Yes its is now running m3 and m4, just put again all the wiring.



Also after the smooth running of the motor, after 1 minute or less trigger an error alarm and stop the motor. the alarm is error z hard limit alarm.

I reset and try again after 1min another error alarm and so on.

After 3 reset and put the one side of the shielded wire to ground on the ground of the controller box and try cw and ccw operation the alarm gone.

My question is whats trigger that alarm?
 
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masso-support

MASSO Support
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lets first get the spindle controller fully working with MASSO including spindle RPM and then we will look into the alarms.
 
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pinoy-cnc

Pinoy CNC
Quote from MASSO - Support on March 18, 2018, 8:17 pm

lets first get the spindle controller fully working with MASSO including spindle RPM and then we will look into the alarms.
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thanks i just figured it out were that error trigger, the cable of the teknomotor that comes from Delta VFD is beside of Inductive Proximity Sensor cable inside the cable carrier, because i am using shielded cable on my spindle motor i put the shielded wire on Ground of the controller box also i am using shielded cable also on VFD going to Masso.

Now the spindle run without any error.

thanks a lot for the help that i get. bravo masso team.......
 
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