Enroute Software Post Processing.

lpnb

lpnb
Anybody Working with this and the Masso?

Not sure where to start but am reading the manual for enroute to see how this is going to work....

I grabbed some existing NC file produced for the Multicam of similar size and dimensions and trimmed out a bunch of code to see if it would work and got movement that seemed accurate. but not the full precursor setup codes .....

If someone has some guidance that would be great.

thanks.
 

tayloredtech

TayloredTech
I had it on the PC my Multicam came with but it was so dated I through the whole thing out.

I have a student license for Fusion360 and it's CAM software is just epic. I got my version for free as a student few years ago but its free for hobbyists and is seriously good. I used to use Solidworks and tried to cam in 3rd party add-ons but it was expensive and went way over my head. Youtube has been good with learning.
 

testyourdesign

testyourdesign
@tayloredtech and @lpnb

I guess it all depends on the type of part your trying to program. Fusion 360 works really well with 3D models so it lends itself to Milling and Lathe operations. You can use it for 2D but its sort of overkill if all you are doing is flat panel work like cabinets or plasma cutting flat plates. My go to software for 2D flat panel work is V-Carve Pro. Its much faster to program a DXF file in V-Carve Pro than it is in Fusion 360 since I don't have to create a 3d model. The Mach3_arcs Post in V-Carve Pro works with Masso.

I have not tried Enroute so I can't comment on the benefits but if you need a custom post processor for their CAM package to work with Masso then your best bet is to contact them and direct them to the G-Code requirements section in the Masso documentation. That's what I did to get the Fusion 360 post that Masso are directing you to use now. Post processor work is not very easy to decipher and each CAM program has its quirks so they need to tailor it to work with the supported G-Codes and M-Codes that Masso have identified in the documentation.

Cheers, Stephen Brown
 

tayloredtech

TayloredTech
Quote from testyourdesign on November 19, 2018, 4:24 am

@tayloredtech and @lpnb

I guess it all depends on the type of part your trying to program. Fusion 360 works really well with 3D models so it lends itself to Milling and Lathe operations. You can use it for 2D but its sort of overkill if all you are doing is flat panel work like cabinets or plasma cutting flat plates. My go to software for 2D flat panel work is V-Carve Pro. Its much faster to program a DXF file in V-Carve Pro than it is in Fusion 360 since I don't have to create a 3d model. The Mach3_arcs Post in V-Carve Pro works with Masso.

I have not tried Enroute so I can't comment on the benefits but if you need a custom post processor for their CAM package to work with Masso then your best bet is to contact them and direct them to the G-Code requirements section in the Masso documentation. That's what I did to get the Fusion 360 post that Masso are directing you to use now. Post processor work is not very easy to decipher and each CAM program has its quirks so they need to tailor it to work with the supported G-Codes and M-Codes that Masso have identified in the documentation.

Cheers, Stephen Brown

Very true, though once you've drawn the sketch a simple extrude to the height of the piece is all that is needed. More so the reason is we can get Fusion for free haha.

I'm downloading the trial of V-carve to see what it's like. I have a feeling I have had it before but didn't know what I was doing (pre CNC)

Looks good!, thanks Stephen!
 

lpnb

lpnb
Quote from TayloredTech on November 19, 2018, 4:06 am

I had it on the PC my Multicam came with but it was so dated I through the whole thing out.

I have a student license for Fusion360 and it's CAM software is just epic. I got my version for free as a student few years ago but its free for hobbyists and is seriously good. I used to use Solidworks and tried to cam in 3rd party add-ons but it was expensive and went way over my head. Youtube has been good with learning.

yeah thanks, I can't imagine this customer ever changing the software and they would not be eligible for the free version anyway. I'm into Solidworks but not any cam though. Need to look at Fusion soon.
 

lpnb

lpnb
Quote from testyourdesign on November 19, 2018, 4:24 am

@tayloredtech and @lpnb

I guess it all depends on the type of part your trying to program. Fusion 360 works really well with 3D models so it lends itself to Milling and Lathe operations. You can use it for 2D but its sort of overkill if all you are doing is flat panel work like cabinets or plasma cutting flat plates. My go to software for 2D flat panel work is V-Carve Pro. Its much faster to program a DXF file in V-Carve Pro than it is in Fusion 360 since I don't have to create a 3d model. The Mach3_arcs Post in V-Carve Pro works with Masso.

I have not tried Enroute so I can't comment on the benefits but if you need a custom post processor for their CAM package to work with Masso then your best bet is to contact them and direct them to the G-Code requirements section in the Masso documentation. That's what I did to get the Fusion 360 post that Masso are directing you to use now. Post processor work is not very easy to decipher and each CAM program has its quirks so they need to tailor it to work with the supported G-Codes and M-Codes that Masso have identified in the documentation.

Cheers, Stephen Brown

cheers @testyourdesign thanks for your thoughts. I actually did ask them late last night and they did reply which is great and I thought they might ask for the supported g-code but they said:

"To adjust it, we only need:
  • An output file of the GCode, square and circle with toolchanger in between if the machine has toolchanger?
  • Which kind of features his your customer looking for? 3D? Automatic Toolpath? 2D?...
  • What's his is software ID number?- You can check it on Menu> Help (5/6 digits) or on your software dongle."

which seemed a bit weird to me! why the 'output' file?

I'll reply and ask but maybe I am not understanding what they want??
 

lpnb

lpnb
Quote from TayloredTech on November 19, 2018, 4:37 am

Quote from testyourdesign on November 19, 2018, 4:24 am

@tayloredtech and @lpnb

I guess it all depends on the type of part your trying to program. Fusion 360 works really well with 3D models so it lends itself to Milling and Lathe operations. You can use it for 2D but its sort of overkill if all you are doing is flat panel work like cabinets or plasma cutting flat plates. My go to software for 2D flat panel work is V-Carve Pro. Its much faster to program a DXF file in V-Carve Pro than it is in Fusion 360 since I don't have to create a 3d model. The Mach3_arcs Post in V-Carve Pro works with Masso.

I have not tried Enroute so I can't comment on the benefits but if you need a custom post processor for their CAM package to work with Masso then your best bet is to contact them and direct them to the G-Code requirements section in the Masso documentation. That's what I did to get the Fusion 360 post that Masso are directing you to use now. Post processor work is not very easy to decipher and each CAM program has its quirks so they need to tailor it to work with the supported G-Codes and M-Codes that Masso have identified in the documentation.

Cheers, Stephen Brown

Very true, though once you've drawn the sketch a simple extrude to the height of the piece is all that is needed. More so the reason is we can get Fusion for free haha.

I'm downloading the trial of V-carve to see what it's like. I have a feeling I have had it before but didn't know what I was doing (pre CNC)

Looks good!, thanks Stephen!

These guys love their enroute and they are CHEAP! so there is little chance of a move.
 

lpnb

lpnb
Seems like Enroute want to charge 1000USD for the post. damn that has really put a kybosh on things. Customer going to be livid.

I'm going to play around with some other post's like mach 3 .... since it works for vcarve I am hoping it will work for Enroute.

Any advice?
 

masso-support

MASSO Support
Staff member
can you share the mach3 post file and we can try to modify it, please note that we are running very busy and will try our best but it might take some time.
 

lpnb

lpnb
@masso-support

Hi, I have set up mach3 and exported a NC file. I have two attached.

I notice a G20 even though all the units are in metric.....does the masso ignore the g20 then?

EDIT: I changed the files 5min after initial upload so please look again if used those files.
 

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lpnb

lpnb
i tried to run the file with lots of problems.... question: If there are unsupported G-code commands in the file, how does Masso deal with them?like "G91.1"
 

tayloredtech

TayloredTech
Quote from testyourdesign on November 19, 2018, 4:24 am

@tayloredtech and @lpnb

I guess it all depends on the type of part your trying to program. Fusion 360 works really well with 3D models so it lends itself to Milling and Lathe operations. You can use it for 2D but its sort of overkill if all you are doing is flat panel work like cabinets or plasma cutting flat plates. My go to software for 2D flat panel work is V-Carve Pro. Its much faster to program a DXF file in V-Carve Pro than it is in Fusion 360 since I don't have to create a 3d model. The Mach3_arcs Post in V-Carve Pro works with Masso.

I have not tried Enroute so I can't comment on the benefits but if you need a custom post processor for their CAM package to work with Masso then your best bet is to contact them and direct them to the G-Code requirements section in the Masso documentation. That's what I did to get the Fusion 360 post that Masso are directing you to use now. Post processor work is not very easy to decipher and each CAM program has its quirks so they need to tailor it to work with the supported G-Codes and M-Codes that Masso have identified in the documentation.

Cheers, Stephen Brown

Hey Stephen,

I just spent the last few hours designing something to have engraved for my nephews in Vcarve Pro but after working everything out realised why the post code wasn't working... You can't do your own designs in the trial. I wondered if I sent you the CRV file could you export it as an SVG for me please?
 

masso-support

MASSO Support
Staff member
@lpnb unsupported commands will be ignored but some gcodes are linked to the next lines so it can have a very different outcome also. You have to also keep in mind the there can be different gcodes for the same functionality that are different on different controllers.
 

masso-support

MASSO Support
Staff member
Its common for the programs to have G20, its more to confirm with the controller that the following gocde will be in inches just in case the controller is set to mm in default mode.

Had a quick look at the gcode file and it looks ok including the tool change command, rest I did not get time to load the gcode files on MASSO.
 

lpnb

lpnb
Quote from MASSO - Support on November 21, 2018, 8:04 pm

Its common for the programs to have G20, its more to confirm with the controller that the following gocde will be in inches just in case the controller is set to mm in default mode.

Had a quick look at the gcode file and it looks ok including the tool change command, rest I did not get time to load the gcode files on MASSO.

Does the Masso interpret G90.1 and 91.1
 

lpnb

lpnb
Also, does the Masso do automatic tool diameter compensation? I assume it does since it also does length compensation.
 

testyourdesign

testyourdesign
Quote from TayloredTech on November 22, 2018, 3:13 am

Quote from testyourdesign on November 22, 2018, 2:59 am

@tayloredtech if you post the file on here I will take a look at it and let you know if I can convert it for you.

Thanks Stephen,


@tayloredtech they have the file locked out so that it could only be opened on the computer that it was created. If you buy a license then you will be able to open it yourself.
 

tayloredtech

TayloredTech
Quote from testyourdesign on November 22, 2018, 3:34 pm

Quote from TayloredTech on November 22, 2018, 3:13 am

Quote from testyourdesign on November 22, 2018, 2:59 am

@tayloredtech if you post the file on here I will take a look at it and let you know if I can convert it for you.

Thanks Stephen,


@tayloredtech they have the file locked out so that it could only be opened on the computer that it was created. If you buy a license then you will be able to open it yourself.

I'll check my link sorry, I know but I just don't have $1000 to spend on that software...
 
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