How does the program know what op is hood up?

3dbrink

3dbrink
Simple question,

How does the program know what output is for hood up or hood down? There is no label to assign the output for "Hood up" and many other missing functions???

If the input or output does not have an assignment from the list then how does the program know what that input is and what the other outputs do?

Cheers
 

cncnutz

CNCnutz
Staff member
Hi 3dbrink

If you read the documentation for the particular tool changer you are using it will tell you which tool changer output or input is assigned to which function.
It changes between tool changers hence there is no fixed label for a particular input or output function.

If you find a tool changer without the inputs or output information please let me know and I will investigate further.

for example Here is the Type 1 linear tool changer input and output assignments direct from the documentation.
  1. Tool Changer - Input 1 for Spindle draw bar Status (Low for clamped and High for un-clamped)
  2. Tool Changer - Input 2 for Dust Hood UP OK signal
  3. Tool Changer - Input 3 for Dust Hood DOWN OK signal
  4. Tool Changer - Input 4 for Tools Tray UP OK signal
  5. Tool Changer - Input 5 for Tools Tray DOWN OK signal

OUTPUTS


  1. Chuck Clamp M10/M11 for spindle drawbar clamp and un-clamp (Low to clamp and High to un-clamp)
  2. Tool Changer - Output 1 to move Dust Hood UP
  3. Tool Changer - Output 2 to move Dust Hood DOWN
  4. Tool Changer - Output 3 to move Tools Tray UP
  5. Tool Changer - Output 4 to move ToolsTray DOWN



As you can see Tool Changer-Output 2 is the dust hood up and Tool Changer-Output 3 is the Dust hood down.

Pick any 2 outputs on MASSO and assign one as "Tool Changer - output 2" and the other as "Tool Changer - output 3"

https://docs.masso.com.au/wiring-an...mill-tool-changers/linear-tool-changer-type-1



Hope this helps
Cheers Peter
 

3dbrink

3dbrink
Thanks Peter,

I have a umbrella type tool changer so looks like i have to connect o/p 2 "bring tools in position" relay to trigger the hood up as there are no more outputs for the hood when using umbrella. (and tool changer home sensor to put hood back down).

How do i trigger my drawbar clamp to release the spindle tool as it don't give me a output number only M10/M11 but its gotta be triggered from an output?

Cheers

Stephen

Tool Changer Inputs and Outputs​



INPUTS


  • Tool Changer - Input 1 for Homing Sensor (to be used to find Tool-0 position when the machine is homed)
  • Tool Changer - Input 2 for Pulse Counter Sensor (this pulse signal is required as each tool passes the sensor)
  • Tool Changer - Input 3 for Tools Retract OK (signal from sensor or switch telling the system that the tools are retracted away from the spindle)
  • Tool Changer - Input 4 for Tools In Position OK (signal from a sensor or switch telling the system that the tools fully extended and at loading position)
  • Tool Changer - Input 5 for Spindle in INDEX position (signal from VFD, telling the system that the spindle is Indexed and locked in position)
  • Tool Changer - Input 6 for Drawbar Locked (signal from sensor or switch telling the system that drawbar is in the locked position)
  • Tool Changer - Input 7 for Drawbar Unlocked (signal from sensor or switch telling the system that drawbar is in unlocked position)

OUTPUTS


  • Chuck Clamp M10/M11 for spindle drawbar clamp and un-clamp (Low to clamp and High to un-clamp)
  • Tool Changer - Output 1 to move Rotate Tools
  • Tool Changer - Output 2 when LOW will Retract Tools (away from spindle) and when HIGH will Bring Tools In Position (for tool change)
  • Tool Changer - Output 3 when HIGH will give a signal to VFD to Start JOGGING spindle at very low RPM.
  • Tool Changer - Output 4 when HIGH will give a signal to VFD to Automatically stop and lock in INDEX position.
 

cncnutz

CNCnutz
Staff member
Hi Stephen,

The Chuck Clamp M10 /M11 is the exception to the rule of unnamed outputs.
Configure an output as "Chuck Clamp M10 / M11" You will find it in the output drop down box.

If you do not have a particular input or output signal. eg you don't have a draw bar locked output on your spindle, then do not assign Tool Changer - input 6 and MASSO will ignore that part of the logic and move onto the next step instead of waiting for the particular input and giving an alarm when it doesn't see it. The same applies for outputs. If you do not require a specific output to your spindle then do not assign the output and
MASSO will move to the next step in the logic.

Sounds like you are close to getting it working.
Cheers Peter
 
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