Jog keyboard commands not working

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stevefrisby

SteveFrisby
I Just printed the Masso G3 cheat sheet am pretty impressed with it.

Have been trying out keyboard commands but for some reason I cannot get page up or page down keys to change jog resolution, I might try a different keyboard but everything else seems to be ok, Masso G3 seems to be pretty fussy with keyboards?
 
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stevefrisby

SteveFrisby
I have tried another keyboard and have had the same result i have also found that f11 and f12 with + or - don't work either, I also noticed that I am running mill 4 axis v3.46 but the information I have received is that mill/router is the same software is this correct?

My machine is a router

The cheat sheet says it is for Masso G3 so I am confused as to whether I am doing something wrong or these feature simple don't exist

Btw the second keyboard is a hard wired old school keyboard and the first is a keyboard recommended as working with Masso

I am looking at using keyboard more as it gives me more options for remote control
 
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stevefrisby

SteveFrisby
Thanks for that Peter, are you adding more keyboard functionality as well as it seems you are working on that side of things atm

Also I realized you have to hold down f11 or f12 rather than press them to get them to function so pretty cool feature

Does a tool change function use the probe z set z functions or just the homing feature, Actually I have to probe Z with every job, am I supposed to just get home Z to work better maybe also maybe the probing of Z could be added to the list of key commands

Btw thank you so much for your reply, Love your work and commitment to Masso

Cheers Steve
 
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keymont

keymont
I was hoping to see something about how I no longer can use continuous mode since the latest update today. I have external buttons configured to allow me to jog or step, with jog/step having a dedicated button also. Since the update today, there's no way to get those buttons to jog. I CAN jog from the F3 screen if I click the Continuous button, but even then, not by the buttons.

I've verified that my buttons are being sensed and that they are still configured correctly. I think this is a bug...

AND they didn't implement Feed Speed increase!!!! The humanity!!!!
 
cncnutz

cncnutz

CNCnutz
Staff member
Quote from keymont on June 25, 2020, 5:13 am

I was hoping to see something about how I no longer can use continuous mode since the latest update today. I have external buttons configured to allow me to jog or step, with jog/step having a dedicated button also. Since the update today, there's no way to get those buttons to jog. I CAN jog from the F3 screen if I click the Continuous button, but even then, not by the buttons.

I've verified that my buttons are being sensed and that they are still configured correctly. I think this is a bug...

AND they didn't implement Feed Speed increase!!!! The humanity!!!!
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If you are joging with the keyboard you need to hold down the shift key to to get contineous jog.

When you are using external buttons for jogging to get the continuous jog you need to configure 1 button as a Jog Mode button. When you press the Jog Mode button at the same time as one of the Axis buttons it will jog continuously. When you don't press the jog mode button it will take single steps.

Hope this helps
Quote from SteveFrisby on June 24, 2020, 11:53 pm

Thanks for that Peter, are you adding more keyboard functionality as well as it seems you are working on that side of things atm

Also I realized you have to hold down f11 or f12 rather than press them to get them to function so pretty cool feature

Does a tool change function use the probe z set z functions or just the homing feature, Actually I have to probe Z with every job, am I supposed to just get home Z to work better maybe also maybe the probing of Z could be added to the list of key commands

Btw thank you so much for your reply, Love your work and commitment to Masso

Cheers Steve
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Actually Steve you don't need to hold down the F11 or F12.
Just press them once and then use the + & - keys. It will remain in either the speed or feed mode until you choose another mode.

When Masso does a tool change it is doing a comparison of the homed tool length to the current one. It then does some maths and figures out the required offset to keep the tool at the length you zeroed it at which I would assume is the surface of the stock.

Cheers
Peter
 
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t-mr

t.mr
Quote from keymont on June 25, 2020, 5:13 am

I was hoping to see something about how I no longer can use continuous mode since the latest update today. I have external buttons configured to allow me to jog or step, with jog/step having a dedicated button also. Since the update today, there's no way to get those buttons to jog. I CAN jog from the F3 screen if I click the Continuous button, but even then, not by the buttons.

I've verified that my buttons are being sensed and that they are still configured correctly. I think this is a bug...

AND they didn't implement Feed Speed increase!!!! The humanity!!!!
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Hi

I have this problem too.

Jog/rapid mode button doesn't work on v3.47 update. Axis moves sinlge step when i hold jog mode button!

Seems it is a bug.

Regards

T.MR
 
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stevefrisby

SteveFrisby
Hi Peter

My point isn't that I have to hold them down to enter the mode and then press + or - keys i need to hold them down longer than a normal press to get it to work and then press + or - , I assume it is a safety feature so cant be hit by accident

will update to the new software and try out the 1,2,3 and 4 keys

I have worked out if i can emulate hid keyboard I can pretty much make digital WiFi mpg that can pretty much do all i want to do except use the advanced probe z.

I have noticed a couple of companies have already developed mpg style apps for android and ios.

So you are saying if I probe z and set surface with that just a standard home z is all that is necessary, I am not sure why probing Z rather than just homing Z gives me a more accurate z height. It works well so that's all that really matters

My treatment is starting to really take a toll on my energy levels so am not able to get much done atm but am managing to get more advanced work done as I learn more, but I am starting to get some people who are willing to help out and learn at the same time. I think I am really pushing vectric v carve pro to its limits but will eventually have to upgrade to aspire It would be good if they had a yearly subscription option as I have no idea how long I am going to be using this software for
 
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keymont

keymont
Thanks, Peter. Just to confirm, I have everything already setup and it was working fine with the previous software. I could jog continuously after pressing the jog/step button, or press jog/step button again and switch to step mode. It no longer works since the update. The buttons ARE detected (including jog/step), but they only actually work in step mode.



I also haven t been able to get Masso Link to work since the update. I ve tried 1.6 and went back to 1.5 and neither seems to be able to connect any longer. It was also working fine before the update. To be fair, I haven t put a ton of effort into figuring it out, either. I ll put some time into it today.



Mike
 
breezy

breezy

Moderator
Steve,
So you are saying if I probe z and set surface with that just a standard home z is all that is necessary, I am not sure why probing Z rather than just homing Z gives me a more accurate z height. It works well so that's all that really matters
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I think you haven't grasped how MASSO Auto Tool Zero works.

When you home the machine MASSO moves to home position and sets it's variables to the home position setting you have supplied in the homing dialog, establishing the Machine Coordinate System (MCS) zero position. Then it moves to the ATZ position keeping track of where it is in the MCS DRO and then proceeds to "measure" the tool (T1) which is the last one that it "changed", when the ATZ touch probe is activated it records it's MCS Z position (TP1).

Now when you set Work Coordinate System (WCS) Z zero by touching off or probing, MASSO again records the MCS Z position (ZP0).

Next you change tool (T2) MASSO goes through it ATZ routine and it records the new position (TP2), then it calculates the difference between TP1 & TP2 and applies that to ZP0 so that the new tool's tip should be in the correct position when you goto WCS Z0.

To see how things change on the Z axis DROs, change to a long tool and zero Z axis to your work surface now move Z up to 10mm below Z home (MCS DRO -10) note WCS Z DRO reading. Now change to a short tool and again move to MCS -10, now compare WCS Z DRO to previous and it should be larger.

Hope this help you to understand ATZ.

Regards,

Arie.
 
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stevefrisby

SteveFrisby
Hi Arie I haven't been able to do much of anything lately but will investigate. I am on pain meds that have made me a bit brain dead hopefully I will be able to get back to normal soon. But i will definitely try playing around with probing I have a feeling it might be as simple as having my block height setup incorrectly somewhere.

Thanks for your support I will let you know where i have gone wrong

I am about to install the new firmware, so will have to reload my original settings from what ive heard so will be an opportunity to have a play around with them a bit

Thanks so much for your support

Steve
 
cncnutz

cncnutz

CNCnutz
Staff member
Hi Steve,

Just before you do the update take some screen prints of the various screens and you will find it very easy to compare the new and old settings.
Also do a save settings to your flashdrive just in case. I find I can rebuild Masso in about 5 minutes with the screen prints.
In the new update you can do a print settings which you can use to check things if needed and you can upload it here if you need help because it is a readable test file.

Hope you start feeling better soon.
Cheers Peter
 
breezy

breezy

Moderator
Peter,

If he saves the settings to file, can't he just load that file after updating the firmware?

I haven't tried this myself, I'm asking as Justin "lost" all his settings after upgrading to 3.47 on a G3.

Regards,

Arie.
 
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