MASSO-CNC + Mini Lathe 750v = CNC Late, idea and questions

[pandrei]

This is a GOOGLE translation RUSSIAN -> GERMAN -> ENGLISH

I present my new project, conversion of the MX-750V mini lathe for the CNC control MASSO-CNC.

What I have: MX-750v lathe;

MASSO CNC control;
High power b rstenlosen DC controller ZM-7206 panel display speed drive 1,2 KW mit Halle sensoren b rstenlosen DC motor;

310 V b rstenlosen DC motor Flansch 80mm K rper l nge 180mm 1200 W 4000 rpm b rstenlosen motor;

RM1605 Set SFU1605 Rolled Ball Screw C7 With End Machined + 1605 Ball Nut + Nut Housing + BK / BF12 End Support + Coupler For CNC Parts;

Stepper motor 1.8 Nm 4.2 A.;

Stepper motor 5.5 Nm 5.9 A DS;

Stepper motor driver Leadshine DM556 Digital;

Stepper motor driver Leadshine DM556EU Digital

I completely dismantled, washed and cleaned the machine Now I'm assembling everything.​

MfG, PAndrei

 

[pandrei]

Quote from PAndrei on July 10, 2021, 3:01 pm

This is a GOOGLE translation RUSSIAN -> GERMAN -> ENGLISH

I present my new project, conversion of the MX-750V mini lathe for the CNC control MASSO-CNC.

What I have: MX-750v lathe;

MASSO CNC control;
High power b rstenlosen DC controller ZM-7206 panel display speed drive 1,2 KW mit Halle sensoren b rstenlosen DC motor;

310 V b rstenlosen DC motor Flansch 80mm K rper l nge 180mm 1200 W 4000 rpm b rstenlosen motor;

RM1605 Set SFU1605 Rolled Ball Screw C7 With End Machined + 1605 Ball Nut + Nut Housing + BK / BF12 End Support + Coupler For CNC Parts;

Stepper motor 1.8 Nm 4.2 A.;

Stepper motor 5.5 Nm 5.9 A DS;

Stepper motor driver Leadshine DM556 Digital;

Stepper motor driver Leadshine DM556EU Digital

I completely dismantled, washed and cleaned the machine Now I'm assembling everything.​

MfG, PAndrei

Eine Frage, wie kann ich verbinden dem MASSO Kontroller mit DC controller ZM-7206?

A question, how can I connect the MASSO controller to the DC controller ZM-7206?

 

[breezy]

@pandrei,

If you can supply a link to users manual we will be able to help.

It looks straight forward, just need to check operation of pin 4 & 5.

In the meantime you can watch Peter's video on setting up VFD. The principle is the same even though your are using a DC motor. It is important that you follow the steps laid out in the video.

Regards,

Arie.

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Yesli vy predostavite ssylku na rukovodstvo pol'zovatelya, my smozhem vam pomoch'.

Vyglyadit pryamolineyno, prosto nuzhno proverit' rabotu kontaktov 4 i 5.

A poka vy mozhete posmotret' video Pitera o nastroyke VFD. Printsip tot zhe, dazhe yesli vy ispol'zuyete dvigatel' postoyannogo toka. Vazhno, chtoby vy sledovali instruktsiyam, izlozhennym v video.

 

[pandrei]

Hallo, auf der Homepepage des Anbieters gibt es eine kurze Beschreibung des Systems,

Nach meinem Verst ndnis ben tige ich zur Verwendung der Befehle M3 und M4 einen Relaisschalter. Kantakt 4 M3 geschlossen; M4 ist offen, das zweite was mich verwirrt ist 10v. Drehzahlregelung f r MASSO-CNC und 5V. auf Cantacta bei ZM-7206

Hello, there is a short description of the system on the provider's homepage,

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From what I understand, I need a relay switch to use the M3 and M4 commands. Contact 4 M3 closed; M4 is open, the second thing that confuses me is 10v. Speed control for MASSO-CNC and 5V. on Cantacta at ZM-7206

 

[breezy]

@pandrei

You need to get a MASSO relay module.

Buy MASSO relay module for controlling relays also check Masso relay module latest price, specification and reviews at Masso

MASSO relay module for controlling relays with MASSO CNC controller. MASSO 6 relay module provides optical isolation for high voltage/current signals from MASSO controller.

www.masso.com.au

From the PDF you supplied, section 4.1 Speed adjustment method, second paragraph
It can also be adjusted by external PWM signal.

Connect MASSO spindle pin1 to CN2 pin2, CN2 pin3 to MASSO -ve PS, then in Spindle settings select PWM and set Spindle speed at 100% duty cycle to the max speed of your spindle. Also select the frequency you wish to run the controller at.

Spindle Control

docs.masso.com.au

Now for FWD/REV and Emergency Stop control. You need to wire up three relays. On all three relays wire from relay COM to CN2 pin3 (COM)
Emergency Stop: From MASSO ES terminal to relay1 input. From CN2 pin6 (EMG) to relay1 NC. This should stop the spindle if the Estop button is pressed.

EStop Wiring

docs.masso.com.au

Forward: MASSO spindle pin2 to relay2 input. From relay2 NO to CN2 pin5 (EN).
Reverse: MASSO spindle pin3 to relay3 input and to relay4 input. From relay3 NO to CN2 pin5 (EN). From relay4 NO to CN2 pin4 (F/R). You need to use two relays to run in reverse.
To enable the driver CN2 pin5 (EN) needs to be taken high and when this is high the spindle will start. If CN2 pin4 (F/R) is high then the spindle will run in reverse.

Regards,

Arie.

 

[pandrei]

OK. sobald alle Teile vorliegen werde ich diese verbindung auf einem pr fstand testen

OK. as soon as all parts are available i will test this connection on a test bench

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Ich habe zwei MASSO relay module bei MASSO-CNC bestellt

I have ordered two MASSO relay modules from MASSO-CNC

? ??????? ??? MASSO relay module ? MASSO-CNC



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Habe ich deine Gedanken richtig verstanden?

Did I understand your thoughts correctly?

 

[breezy]

@pandrei

Nearly there, you are using the drawing of the G2 whereas you have purchased a G3 so use the drawing from this page.

Powering MASSO-G3

docs.masso.com.au

This of course will affect all your other connections in your previous drawing. I didn't pick up on the incorrect drawing on the first reading.

I made an error in one piece of information where I wrote On all three relays wire from relay COM to CN2 pin3 (COM) it should read four relays.

Regards,

Arie.

 

[pandrei]

Richtig, ich habe G2

MfG, PAndrei

 

[breezy]

@pandrei

Sorry assumed that you were doing a new install using G3.

You will need to make a change to the Estop relay connections.

You will need a 24v relay, wire the NC & COM contacts as before and for the coil connections use terminal 7 of the relay connector block and connect as per documentation. https://docs.masso.com.au/wiring-an...on/masso-g2-drive-and-relay-wiring#YI7HRJ0DSB

Regards,

Arie.

 

[pandrei]

Ich habe zuhause vier stuck von diese Relay module
24v

Spindel Control TTL-Signal -> 5v Relay 24v ???

Spindle control TTL signal -> 5v Relay 24v ???

 

[pandrei]

Quote from PAndrei on July 11, 2021, 3:33 pm

Richtig, ich habe G2

MfG, PAndrei

ich habe ein POWER Supply mit 12v und 5v

I have a POWER supply with 12v and 5v

 

[pandrei]

Quote from PAndrei on July 11, 2021, 6:58 pm

Quote from PAndrei on July 11, 2021, 3:33 pm

Richtig, ich habe G2

MfG, PAndrei

ich habe ein POWER Supply mit 12v und 5v

I have a POWER supply with 12v and 5v

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Ich habe hier eine Idee, setze ein zus tzliches 5V-Netzteil ein und schlie e eine Relaiseinheit daran an

I have an idea here, put in an additional 5V power supply and connect a relay unit to it

 

[cncnutz]

Hi PAndrei

I haven't read this entire ticket but a great way of using this type of speed control.
I just wanted to comment that the MASSO Relay module runs off 24 volts not 5 volts.
For the Estop relay use a 10K resistor from EStop 2 to the MASSO Relay input.
Connect your Estop switch in the normal way either to Estop 1 if you have a pendant or Estop 2 if you don't.
The MASSO Relay is designed for 5 volts input but with a 10K resistor it will knock it for to 4 volts and save you the extra power supply and the extra Estop switch.

Hope this helps
Cheers Peter

 

[pandrei]

I've changed the scheme

 

[breezy]

@pandrei

Good.

One final connection CN2 pin7 to any input on MASSO assigned to Spindle Drive Alarm Input, this will signal to stop if there is an alarm condition on the drive.

Regards,

Arie.

PS. Thanks Peter, for the alternate emergency connection.

 

[pandrei]

Done!

 

[pandrei]

Quote from Breezy on July 13, 2021, 10:24 am

@pandrei

Good.

One final connection CN2 pin7 to any input on MASSO assigned to Spindle Drive Alarm Input, this will signal to stop if there is an alarm condition on the drive.

Regards,

Arie.

PS. Thanks Peter, for the alternate emergency connection.

in Russian​

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in English

Desperate times call for desperate measures​

in latin

Extremis malis extrema remedia​

MfG PAndrei​

 

[pandrei]

Hi, Question; what does the explanation in the ZM-7206 driver manual mean, should I connect a revision to P and B2?

The internal DC bus terminal of the driver is rated at 311V.

Some products have a built-in. If an external braking resistor is regutred,

connect the external braking resistor to P and B2. Note! ! !

Never connect P and B1 at the same time

MfG, PAndrei

 

[breezy]

@pandrei

Only needed if you if you get over voltage alarm. Manual is not clear about parameter settings or resistor values.

Regards,

Arie.

 

[pandrei]

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Hooray, the system works, you just need to adjust everything a little and motivate it to the lathe