Programming Huanyang VFD for 2.2kw Spindle

[BradCarr]

I have a 24k rpm 2.2kw 110v water-cooled spindle and appropriate VFD for it (2.2kw 110v).

Up until now, I ran the spindle solely from the VFD it's self but I couldn't spin under 9k (we used to have the same model at work that I could run slightly above 1k rpm so I'm thinking I've had something wrong from the get-go). Regardless, I got tired of running the risk of spinning a tool too fast/slow based on what my programs called for, I have a tendency to forget to change rpm speed in between tool changes. I have since then went through and wired everything in to run it from the MASSO G3.

If the spindle is set to a very low speed, 10k rpm and I set my rpm override to say 10%... I can slowly work my way up to the required spindle speed. 100% speed however is NOT what I set it to be with Sxxxxx on the MDI. 100% is the full 24k rpm of the spindle. Regardless if I set the rpm to anything over 12k my spindle starts to speed up and throws a E.O.C.n on the VFD and shuts down. This code in the manual is a "over current at constant speed" error. However the spindle worked prior to this fun little road trip I'm on.

Read through some other forums I could find and didn't see anything that would help my case, maybe I missed something important here...

Any help is appreciated!!

Current VFD settings:
PD001: 1
PD002: 0
PD003: 400
PD004: 400
PD005: 400
PD006: 2.5
PD007: 0.5
PD008: 110
PD009: 15
PD010: 8
PD011: 120
PD014: 10
PD015: 10
PD025: 1
PD026: 1
PD041: 13
PD070: 1
PD072: 400
PD073: 120
PD141: 110
PD142: 9
PD143: 2
PD144: 3000

I got these from the seller... only changed PD001 for MASSO control.

I DID move that jumper in the VFD between the three pins from the right two to the left two pins.

 

[breezy]

Provide a link to the VFD manual, so we can check the settings against it.
Parameter numbers mean nothing without the description of the parameter.

 

[BradCarr]

I believe this to be the one I have.

 

[BradCarr]

... didn't seem to upload...

https://bulkman3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/HY01D523B-VFD-Manual.pdf

 

[safeairone]

See this post. It has all the settings for using the Huanyang 220v VFD with the Masso G3 controller:

Huanyang VFD Settings for 2.2kW Spindle and Masso Controller

Peter’s video explaining the physical wiring of a Huanyang VFD to work with the Masso controller is a great help. The only thing needed is a guide to the Huanyang VFD settings that work with the Masso controller. There are plenty of generic lists of settings for the Huanyang VFD on the web...

forums.masso.com.au

 

[safeairone]

Oh, wait…your 2.2kw SPINDLE is 110v?? That’s unusual.

Anyhow, I’d check:

PD001

PD011 (especially, since it sets min RPM)

PD070

PD073

 

[safeairone]

Now for that forum breach of etiquette where I post 3 times in a row…

Note that those settings in my link are for a 220v VFD/spindle, not a 110v VFD/spindle (I’ve corrected this in my first reply). I imagine all the settings should be similar except PD008 and PD141 and PD142. I’m surprised that you have PD142 set for 9 amps—the same max amps as for a 220v spindle—if your spindle is 110v. I’d expect the max amps of a 110v spindle to be double that of a 220v spindle.

What model VFD do you have—that manual covers a couple dozen different models? For that matter, what model number is your spindle?

Hahaha…typical Chinese manual:

 

[breezy]

Now for that forum breach of etiquette where I post 3 times in a row…

 

[BradCarr]

VFD: HY02D211B
Spindle: GDZ-20-2.2B (half of it is covered up so this is a guess)

Could I follow the high torque settings even though I'm at 110? I'll just be drawing more current.

I read that thread early on but saw it was 220 and skipped over it... lol

 

[safeairone]

Could I follow the high torque settings even though I'm at 110? I'll just be drawing more current.

Not sure about the torque curves. I remember extrapolating the numbers shown in the manual, but I think it was based on the frequency, not the amps.

 

[BradCarr]

I changed my settings to all of yours with the exception of

PD002: 1 -> 0 doesn't this have to be a 0 for MASSO control? at a 1, the spindle doesn't turn on at all.
PD008: 220 ->110
PD00141: 220 -> 110

Setting MASSO to S12000... the spindle starts at ~ 800 rpm and VERY slowly picks up rpm... it maybe got to 1200 before I turned it off knowing something is wrong.

 

[safeairone]

PD002: 1 -> 0 doesn't this have to be a 0 for MASSO control? at a 1, the spindle doesn't turn on at all.

That’s odd…The manual says “1” for external control. “0” should use the little potentiometer on the VFD panel:

 

[BradCarr]

That is PD001 however, PD002 the operating frequency is what I changed…

Makes me wonder where the knob was turned (that’s why it was slow if I had it the whole way down)… but regardless at a 1, the VFD did not respond.

 

[breezy]

 

[safeairone]

That is PD001 however, PD002 the operating frequency is what I changed…

Ahh, missed that it was 002 not 001. Still, as breezy posted, a “1” should enable Masso control in conjunction with PD070, which should be set to “0” for a 0-10v analog signal from the Masso controller to control spindle speed.

 

[safeairone]

Did you follow Peter’s video as far as wiring goes?:

 

[BradCarr]

I wonder if that’s what I missed earlier. I was playing with PD001, PD002, and PD070 a lot. I wonder if I didn’t have 070 to a 0 while I had 002 to a 1. Regardless I was still getting that over current error so I whipped everything and started over.

Now I just have a slow ramping spindle going to who knows what speed lol.

 

[BradCarr]

Did you follow Peter’s video as far as wiring goes?:

Yes I did. I double checked again last night and confirmed the 0-10 signal even.

 

[safeairone]

Now I just have a slow ramping spindle going to who knows what speed lol.

You’ve got a 10-second spool-up time and a 10-second spool-down time set in PD014 and PD015. I wouldn’t get to aggressive with the spool down unless you have a braking resistor installed, but you could probably shorten the spool-up time without tripping an error.

 

[BradCarr]

Set to 6 and same results. I let it ramp up until it hit 1.4K rpm and it threw an over current error…

Same error as before it’s just slow now.

What should PD025 (starting mode) and PD026 (stopping mode) be set to? PD041(carrier frequency)? I noticed this wasn't mentioned anywhere else but it was to be changed in the sellers information.

PD025: 1
PD026: 1
PD041: 13