Spindle CCW / STOP / CW External Inputs.

[testyourdesign]

Please consider adding external inputs for Masso CCW, STOP, and CW Spindle functions. I would be very handy to have external control over the Masso spindle functions using external inputs. This could serve either external push buttons or other safety lockout type controls.

Cheers, Stephen Brown

 

[tayloredtech]

+1

I want to have 3rd party controls on all functions but as signals IN to the Masso so the Masso is still in charge and knows where everything is up to

 

[airnut]

Stephen,

I agree whole heartedly and have also put in a request just the other day for the very same thing. If they have it for the flood function why not the spindle functions, or cool or shift? They just need to be tied to the appropriate outputs internally in the Masso and that would sure simplify the interface. Not every one uses a program to run these machines. Sometimes it is quick do a one off piece from the keyboard and mouse or touch pad. These inputs are really a necessary improvement to speed things up and add versatility to the operations. Looks like it should be a very simple software fix to me.

Regards,

Steve

 

[gregn]

My lathe can be used as both a manual or cnc machine.

The spindle can be turned on and off via the F2 screen but this can be awkward with the small screen built into the lathe.

If I could use the front panel switches it would be safer and easier to use the machine in manual mode.

Regards, Greg

 

[airnut]

Gregn,
Your right jumping between screens to get to the control of the spindle is not the best solution. Takes time and it is not that safe either.

This hardware is becoming very advanced, and I applaud the effort. We just need a few simple changes to make it great.

So question is it has been over 1.5 years since this last post and nothing to fix it. Why?

Regards,
airnut

 

[airnut]

Masso engineering. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE. I know your pushed in many different ways on these changes. It is an issue that has been on the request posts for as long as I have been coming to this site. There must be something that can be done.
Here is what we need in detail.
Assignable input button labels in the inputs table that corresponds directly to the 3 Spindle CCW, Spindle OFF and Spindle CW push buttons now on the screen. The internal outputs would be the same outputs that currently runs the existing spindle through the Masso relays. This would be similar to and in function to the coolant on / off button inputs.
This is needed to add capability and usability to these controllers. If you deem it necessary, It could even be disabled when a program is loaded into the Que if required. That is, if you were fearing additional spindle control during a program run. However, the additional spindle stop button would be a plus it that case. I have found that activating it shuts everything down anyway.
We need this to be able to just simply use the machine manually without jumping all over the screens to activate and stop the spindle functions.
It needs to be tied into the present spindle loop because the associated features and reactions on the spindle are all driven through the Masso relay structure.
I think this as about as clear as I can make this. I know you would make a lot of us older existing users and probably many more buyers very happy. PLEASE reconsider this request as a current issue and let me know why this can or cannot be done.
Regards,
Airnut

 

[breezy]

Instead of getting 3 extra inputs added to MASSO, why not use what is already there.
This way you are not restricted to the safety interlocks that exist between F2 & F3 screen.
Using Auxiliary Output Toggle input, it's corresponding Auxiliary Output and a TTL relay, who's NC contacts are wired across the spindle pins 4 & 5, you can toggle the spindle CW ON/OFF with a button push. You should also wire the relay contacts through Estop relay.
You will still need to set the spindle speed, as you do if you are using the onscreen buttons.

List of Configurable Inputs

docs.masso.com.au

EStop Wiring

docs.masso.com.au

 

[airnut]

For all who are following this feed. I have submitted this request to support and this continuing discussion is now in that venue.
Per Arie, The advice above was for a VFD system and does not work for a non VFD system.
Regards,
Steve

 

[breezy]

For those that have requested this feature, we will be implementing a Toggle input for CW & CCW.
This way you can toggle the state of the CW & CCW outputs and the corresponding CW & CCW displays in the F2 screen will change to reflect the state of the output. eg If you turn a output ON using the F2 screen you can turn it OFF with the external input and visa versa.
Included in this update will be plasma ON/OFF toggle input.

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