Can the MASSO be used Chinese CNC 6040Z router? Is this a simple plug'n'play or will I need to make changes??
Using MASSO with Chinese CNC 6040Z
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The MASSO can be used to fully control the 6040Z router. For this its preferred to use the non USB version of the 6040Z router so that the connections from MASSO to the axis drives can be done easily.
To be able to fully control the speed and direction of the spindle, the spindle drive (VFD) needs to be wired to MASSO and for this the enclosure of the 6040Z drive box needs to be opened and wired.
Axis wiring to the 25 pin connector of the 6040Z drive box can be done as per this example: https://www.masso.com.au/docs/masso...tion/motors-and-drives-connections/leadshine/
To be able to fully control the speed and direction of the spindle, the spindle drive (VFD) needs to be wired to MASSO and for this the enclosure of the 6040Z drive box needs to be opened and wired.
Axis wiring to the 25 pin connector of the 6040Z drive box can be done as per this example: https://www.masso.com.au/docs/masso...tion/motors-and-drives-connections/leadshine/
Please see the image with more details. Can you have a look and see what type of output voltages the power supply has.
If its a 24v power supply then yes you can power the MASSO straight from this power supply.
Woohoo...
MASSO CNC 4-Axis Controller arrived Wednesday, BEST Valentines present ever.
Packaging was good, all bundled up safely with the MPG Pendant.
I have foraged far and wide online for panel mount extensions for the 2x USB ports, and the VGA port, found items that should be serviceable with a little tweaking, like a gender bender for the SVGA stub.
Still searching for a DB15 panel mount with lead, but may simple make this one.
@MASSO?? Why the DB15 Connector? Are all the pins used? Can you supply a pinout please?
The MASSO / ChinaCNC 6040Z USB conversion is under way.
This weekends task is to completed the pin-out drawings with aiming for the March long weekend (WA) to complete the transplant and powering up.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/401454368004
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/380807845298
MASSO CNC 4-Axis Controller arrived Wednesday, BEST Valentines present ever.
Packaging was good, all bundled up safely with the MPG Pendant.
I have foraged far and wide online for panel mount extensions for the 2x USB ports, and the VGA port, found items that should be serviceable with a little tweaking, like a gender bender for the SVGA stub.
Still searching for a DB15 panel mount with lead, but may simple make this one.
@MASSO?? Why the DB15 Connector? Are all the pins used? Can you supply a pinout please?
The MASSO / ChinaCNC 6040Z USB conversion is under way.
This weekends task is to completed the pin-out drawings with aiming for the March long weekend (WA) to complete the transplant and powering up.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/401454368004
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/380807845298
That has been a busy afternoon,
The pin-outs off the 6040Z controller have been mapped and the drawing will follow shortly.
The old China CNC controller has been removed and there are now a couple of spare parts:
The MASSO Controller has been offered up and it is going to be TIGHT!! As in Shoe-horned into place.
The pin-outs off the 6040Z controller have been mapped and the drawing will follow shortly.
The old China CNC controller has been removed and there are now a couple of spare parts:
- The old USB patch cable is gone, it is being replaced by a panel mount Dual USB
one for the Logitech Unify dongle (Mouse & Keyboard)
Other for the USB Data Thumb-drive.
- A-Axis driver was found secreted nicely under the ChinaCNC Controller along with a EMI filter.
So it is out until I learn how to use it.
The MASSO Controller has been offered up and it is going to be TIGHT!! As in Shoe-horned into place.
- VFD will be moved out to the chassis edge (~8mm)
- EMI filter is to be mounted using double sided tape, vertically to the PSU
- MASSO is to be mounted onto 2x small lengths of DIN Rail, about 6.5cm (2screws)
This will leave a hollow underneath where (hopefully) the 4th axis can to fitted at a later time.
- I will have a SVGA Faceplate to break down and fit into the back panel under the sockets and fan between the AC power socket and the New USB Socket.
Yes it is looking a bit tight, please also note that the VFD makes a lot of electrical noise and having it too close to the MASSO might induce electrical noise in to the MASSO.
You might be able to mount the DIN rail on the outside of the enclosure, either on the left or the right side on the lid (will be a bit tricky to runt he cables) but this will create a shield and also you will be able to access the MASSO and wiring connections easily. You can then connect the VGA and USB's directly to the MASSO.
You might be able to mount the DIN rail on the outside of the enclosure, either on the left or the right side on the lid (will be a bit tricky to runt he cables) but this will create a shield and also you will be able to access the MASSO and wiring connections easily. You can then connect the VGA and USB's directly to the MASSO.
Thanks Guys,
As a "Conversion", I am hoping to keep it all inside the original box.
This would keep the neat and tidy appearance and go a long way to controlling the dust ingression.
Do you think the EMI filter inline on the AC Mains lines, won't be enough? (I am a humongous fan of over engineering!)
There is a good sized ferrite core on the output wires of the VFD & a smaller one for the Water-pump (direct AC).
Working with the fully enclosed path for now, would an IDC ribbon cable be suitable to extent to the front panel for the MPG Pendant?
As a "Conversion", I am hoping to keep it all inside the original box.
This would keep the neat and tidy appearance and go a long way to controlling the dust ingression.
Do you think the EMI filter inline on the AC Mains lines, won't be enough? (I am a humongous fan of over engineering!)
There is a good sized ferrite core on the output wires of the VFD & a smaller one for the Water-pump (direct AC).
Working with the fully enclosed path for now, would an IDC ribbon cable be suitable to extent to the front panel for the MPG Pendant?
Its still good to have some shielding, maybe you can put a metal plate inside between the MASSO and the VFD.
We saw some pics but cant remember where, you can actually use an old PC cabinet to install all these, it will give you enough room to play with.
We saw some pics but cant remember where, you can actually use an old PC cabinet to install all these, it will give you enough room to play with.
Thanks Masso, I'll have a look around my junk shed for an old Midi tower..
Hmmm...
That may also give me a separate 12v PSU to power the MASSO. Would this cause any power supply conflicts?
I would still need to fit chassis connectors to keep it looking nice & tidy. I may have to do a lot of re-wiring (apparently the quality of the wiring has improved significantly from earlier times)
Hmmm...
That may also give me a separate 12v PSU to power the MASSO. Would this cause any power supply conflicts?
I would still need to fit chassis connectors to keep it looking nice & tidy. I may have to do a lot of re-wiring (apparently the quality of the wiring has improved significantly from earlier times)
Nice and yes you can use the PC power supply for sure.
Hey MASSO, Please advise if this nice little DIN rail PSU is suitable to power the MASSO Controller?
JAYCAR 30w 24V 1.5A DIN Rail PSU
JAYCAR 30w 24V 1.5A DIN Rail PSU
Yes that will work fine but its a overkill and bit expensive. You can use any power supply or even a wall adaptor.
*** Conversion Update ***
Bench tested the MASSO this morning before it got too hot out in the shed. ALL *OK*
Now, the question is:
Bench tested the MASSO this morning before it got too hot out in the shed. ALL *OK*
- Connected up the little 24v PSU I have for this type of work, an old 24"monitor I had left over from PC upgrades, plugged in the Logitech unify dongle (fresh batteries for the Keyboard and Mouse *check* ), finally plug in USB Drive with latest version of MASSO.
- Power up Monitor, check video settings, Power up MASSO, less then 1minute to load the firmware. *REBOOT MASSO*
- 10.seconds to load and open MASSO Controller, That is impressive!!
Now, the question is:
- Is there a "bench test mode", where the controller can be run without the CNC connected?
- Is there a "trace mode, where programmes can be previewed without running the CNC?
- Why is the DOOR OPEN alarm active when there is no input set.
- Firstly the door alarm, please see this link as you fist need to assign an input pin for it even if its not being used: https://www.masso.com.au/docs/masso-cnc-controller-documentation/setup-and-calibration/door-input/
- You can disable homing on power up and estop via the homing settings in F1-Setup screen. After this power cycle the unit.
- Next you can load a gcode file and run from the F2-Program screen, you will see the tool position and other information on the screen in real-time.
*** Conversion Update ***
It has been a busy fortnight, but I managed to get in a few hours of Fitting the MASSO into the 6040Z USB box.
I think I have it ready for the $1000 bump test..
But firstly, lets look at how it came together..
I expect it will be the weekend before I get a chance to Smoke Test and update to the latest firmware.
I hope to plug it all back together as well if time allows.
It has been a busy fortnight, but I managed to get in a few hours of Fitting the MASSO into the 6040Z USB box.
I think I have it ready for the $1000 bump test..
But firstly, lets look at how it came together..
- Fitted in the dual USB ports and cut a hole to fit the VGA stub into.
This isn't going to work as room is just too tight, so it will be a simple run the lead through the hole
- Fitted up the MPG IDC flat cable connectors
- Secured the DIN rail for the MASSO and 24VDC PSU (Rotated the E-Stop Knob 90 to clear the PSU)
- Shoe-horned the MASSO & PSU into the 6040 box
- As Masso suggested earlier, this PSU is overkill, but I had it as surplus from an old project form work.
- I wired the mains directly to the switched side of the Main PSU, it is not earthed.
- The MPG flat cable loops loosely oer the top of the 24V-PSU
- To the left you can see the VGS connector & 2x USB leads
- Centre Bottom shows the 3x AXIS signal connectors, these are 4 wire at the Driver, jumpered to 3 wire on this end.
@MASSO - Should I re-wire these or simply jumper again on the MASSO.
- As Masso suggested earlier, this PSU is overkill, but I had it as surplus from an old project form work.
I expect it will be the weekend before I get a chance to Smoke Test and update to the latest firmware.
I hope to plug it all back together as well if time allows.