Vfd set up.

ian-mellin

Ian Mellin
Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help with getting my vfd to work correctly with my masso touch. I have a huanyang 4Kw vfd. I have configured it as described on the Cncnutz website. I have the spindle working going forward, backwards and stopping from the touch screen. The thing I can't get to work is the variable speed. I have it wired as described in the masso manual page 286. When in the MDI for example and enter the command S1000 the spindle starts and goes up to max speed 24000 where I except it to get to 1000 rpm and remain at that speed. Which setting on these types of vfd control the variable speed input.

This is the last thing I have to get working correctly any help would be much appreciated.

Kind Regards

Ian.
 

zombieengineer

ZombieEngineer
@ian-mellin

Please attach a PDF of the manual for your VFD, the parameters vary from model to model (I am fairly certain I have seen manuals for two different Huanyang VFD controllers and the parameter configuration although similar in structure was different at the individual parameter level).

There are a number of parameters that need to be configured for the 0V to 10V speed signal input (one parameter might be "use input x", another may be "input x is 0-10V").

As a sanity check - using a multimeter what is the voltage that Masso providing to the VFD (should be 0.4V based on your posting).

Various Huanyang VFD manuals:

An old posting from several months back for the GT series - use the information at your own risk (read your manual carefully and understand what each parameter setting is doing). The recommendations in that posting are based on the manual found and have not been confirmed against a running unit.
 

ian-mellin

Ian Mellin
Hello, my VFD is the HY series with the following coding HY04D023B its a 4Kw VFD driving a 3Kw water cooled spindle. The spindle is 12 Amp, the input voltage in the Uk is 240V but i have the VFD set for 220V

Hy04 = power = 4Kw Output current = 18 Amp ( limited to 12 so I don't blow the spindle up). The rest is the same i believe.

I only have the generic HY generic manual with this as an addition from the manufactures site.

Hyria Electrical Co.Ltd (hy-electrical.com)
 

breezy

Moderator
@ian-mellin

Ian,

Peter has produced a video laying out the steps to take when connecting a VFD to MASSO.

It is important to follow the steps exactly as skipping steps will result in you being where you are now, asking for help.


Regards,

Arie.
 

ian-mellin

Ian Mellin
Hello I have watched this video several times and believe i have spotted an inconsistency between the documentation and what Peter has actually configured.

On the Masso documentation page 286 there is only a connection to the VI input from terminal 1 on the Masso.

In peters presentation there is clearly a wire going to the 10 V input as well which is not in the documentation.

I believe that this is my issue as i followed the masso Documentation. Please can you advise how this should be wired.

Kind Regards

Ian.
 

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zombieengineer

ZombieEngineer
@ian-mellin

The wiring diagram appears to be correct (Masso has an internal 10V reference hence the 10V wire is not required). The screen capture you have posted looks like from the point when Peter is using a potentiometer to control the speed rather than Masso (about 9 mins into the presentation).

Could you please post your "printable settings file" (F1 screen => Save/Load Settings => Save Printable File, this will save the settings to the USB stick in a human readable format). One potential issue is the PWM is selected instead of VFD. The Masso support people can spot all sorts of issues from the printable settings file (Breezy found a stupid mistake in my configuration at a quick glance while checking something unrelated).

In addition could you please post what the values you have used for the following VFD parameters?

PD001, PD002, PD003, PD004, PD005, PD007, PD008, PD009, PD010, PD011, PD014, PD015, PD044, PD045, PD070, PD072, PD073
 

ian-mellin

Ian Mellin
PD001 = 1

PD002 = 1

PD003 = 400

PD004 = 400

PD005 = 400

PD007 = 0.5

PD008 = 220

PD009 = 15.0

PD010 = 8

PD011 = 0 as my spindle is water cooled.

PD014 = 5

PD015 = 10

PD044 = 2

PD045 = 3

PD070 = 0

PD072 = 400

PD073 = 0
 

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zombieengineer

ZombieEngineer
@ian-mellin

I think I spotted the problem:
==========Spindle Settings==========
- Encoder (Pulses per revolution): 100

- Spindle Control Method: VFD (0~10v)
- Spindle RPM at 10 volts: 1000

- Spin UP delay (milliseconds): 10000
- Spin DOWN delay (milliseconds): 10000

Please change the "Spindle RPM at 10 volts" to 24000 (maximum RPM of the VFD).

Will have a look at the VFD parameters to make sure everything is in order there...

EDIT: Nothing obviously wrong with the VFD parameters based on my reading of the HY manual.
 
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